What are you? … [human]

It’s called curiosity, and wanting to be the best you can be. I don’t see how defending yourself is bad. That makes it sound like you’re saying we should just go around letting people beat us down every which way. If you want to be the equivalent of God, you’re a moron. That’s all.

I think you should seriously consider that it is just you.

Who’s David?

LOL! Sometimes Thomas, you suprise me. This is a blog of sorts. If you expect to make your feelings public, expect criticism.

You can be so narrow-minded. I was under the impression that you wanted people’s opinions here. I thought you had changed. Obviously I’m incorrect. You’re looking for a sugared-up version of life. Unfortunately, that doesn’t exist.

Your narrow-mindedness has shut you up in a little cage. You refuse to acknowledge anything outside of it. You refuse to look at radical opinions, or anyother opinions at all for that matter besiders your own, and anything else beyond your comfort zone.

You would not have to defend yourself if you wouldn’t get things right the first time. Humans make mistakes. I make mistakes. But you do things without thinking them through.

I speak the truth. If you don’t want the truth, I suggest you put it on your welcome paragraph.

I’m supportive of the truth.

You are frightened of the truth, and that’s not going to get you anywhere. You’re living a lie. You deny what you know is true.

And, yes, I’m David. I hope you’re happy.

And Brooke, I don’t know you, but I apologize if I offended you.

Oh, and if you’re trying to publicly embarrass me, try harder next time, because, frankly, that was pathetic. That’s the TRUTH.

There are a lot of people who would argue that. They’re are lots of people who admire the truth - true scholars that they are. They aren’t afraid to face the facts.

The truth is not cold. I am not so weak as to say that ignorance is the better choice. No, I’m alert and unwavering. I will stand by the truth, even if I’m the only one standing.

If I am such a jerk, why is it that I became ASPL, and you didn’t? You made it personal at the start, and now the joke’s on you.

You don’t realize that you’re on the wrong side. Not that I particularily want you on my side, although I do pity you.

I love life, and I’d hate to lose it. I know that there are still more things to be done.

Sometimes the truth is brutal, but need not blame me for that. It’s God who made the truth. Defy the truth, and you’re defying God. God made the truth for a reason, and I trust in him, I trust in the truth.

People understand that. It’s just you Thomas (not literally). You’re stuck in your little bubble.

I don’t lack social skills. I have tons of friends, and they all enjoy my presence. I actually get along quite well with loads of different types of people too. I like kids, teens, adults, the elderly. They’re all so interesting, because they each have a different story.

I pity you.

Sorry Chris. Didn’t know that it was you. It sounded like Thomas, because you recognized me as David before, so I figured it was him. Sorry again. None of those comments were meant to be directed toward you. Sorry, sorry…

truth is brutal. but that’s what faith is for. faith is believing on something no matter what the truth is. Because sometimes the truth is just an opinion from a person. And I agree that you are entitled to your opinion, but truth is not always the best thing to know. And knowing the truth doesn’t mean you are better than another person

I had been under the impression that Lamp was Thomas. Do you share it, or is it just you?

Oh, OK. I’m so sorry again Chris. LOL. Thomas had told me it was his blog, so I figured he was Lamp since he had written almost everything.

well whether is chris or thomas hes kind of right

Why didn’t you tell me before then anyway when I had referred to you as Thomas?

well maybe he doesn’t want to tell you

Truth is faith, they’re one and the same. And truth can’t be an opinion, otherwise it wouldn’t be truth. Truth is not always brutal either, especially not when you come to accept it. Truth is good, because truth is faith. Have faith in truth, and you’re good to go!

Oh, and I never said I was better than anyone.

truth comes from where people who wrote book? its just that person’s opinion and that doesn’t mean his opinion is right

truth and faith is almost similar, you can’t believe on everything you read somewhere.

Lots of truth is scientific. It can be proven. I don’t believe something as soon as I read it. I’m not a complete moron. Instead I do extensive research. If lots of facts, data, evidence, etc. coincide, I consider it.

May I ask who Truth_Faith is?

but that is still a persons opinion he thinks something is right , it doesn’t mean it is right. well do this research: for every truth there is always someone else’s contradiction to it

right chris or thomas?

But when a huge number of people all get the same conclusion, you have to consider it. Like for example: I can say that there is a tree out my window. A lot of people will confirm that. You don’t just go and say that that is not truth.

truth or faith is not thomas or chris. whats important is that im just a concerned individual voicing his opinion, it doesn’t mean my opinion is the truth is just what i think is right

Well I trust Lamp (or at least as well as you can trust someone from a blog, not to mean any offense, but you know the internet) that he is Chris, so Truth_Faith is probably Thomas.

even though the tree is the truth i may not believe it, can you prove it to me right now

i repeat i am not thomas or chris

Well you would be wrong not to believe it. Because considering the scenario, that dozens of people varify it.

And yes I can prove it. I have a digital camera, and am more than willing to hook it up to my computer, take the picture, and send it to your e-mail address.

Just give me an e-mail address and I will of course oblige.

how do i know that, that is your house

If you’re not Chris or Thomas, I don’t really have any guesses who you are.

and if i belive that, that is not your house i will make lots of people believe me and that is according to you truth

Your welcome to come see. Send me a phone number and I’ll give you the address. You can stop by, and I’d be more than happy to greet you, and show you my window, and the forest outside. We live on a farm out in the country so I have 40 acres of forest visible outside my window.

but according to you if i have people believe in me(lots of people ) then it is the truth

Well if you want to go beyond that, I can show you deeds in my parents’ names, and you could check the phone book as well.

but that still contradict what you said earlier about people believing and then it is the truth

But they wouldn’t believe you when I showed them. So perhaps you should think about this in my definition of truth: I see things before I believe them. I never gave you my whole definition - you never asked for it.

No, no, that wasn’t the whole. Truth is not simple. There are technical vetoes and what not that change things.

Like for example, if a ton of people tell me that Britain doesn’t exist, then I would probably consider that truth for the time being, but if I go to Britain and see it, I would veto what I had heard, and consider Britain truth.

lets say that bob is robbed by fred. Fred went to jail the newspaper said that fred did it. the cops said that fred did it. then 2 months later a new evidence is found, fred is not the thief. which is the truth fred went to jail the first time or after he was released? truth is always changing

that is right lamp, therefore truth always change and i don’t belive on some of the truths

“No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.”- Albert Einstein

truth is always changing

You made good points (sorry - dinner). Truth is always changing, but what is there to live for if we don’t believe in something. And some truths don’t change. But some do as well. That’s where the individual has to decide what they believe - faith. But since you’ll never know, that makes no difference then, so truth is faith.

And vive versa.

Vice Versa*

You prove my point exactly! And who are you? Seriously, please tell me.

truth is an opinion and you are entitled to your opinion and i respect your opinion but some people do not agree with your opinion and you have to live with it

my identity is my own all i can tell you is i will know you when i see you but you will not know if you see me, i guess some truth are better left unknown

Sigh… here we go again. Truth is not an opinion. An opinion is a point of view. There is no perspective in truth - its fact - it’s objective. It’s there or it’s not, we just don’t know, and that doesn’t make it opinion, because it still doens’t have perspective.

What do you lose from telling me? It’s curiosity? Why is it best left unknown?

well my perspective is that truth is an opinion that many people agree on and truth can change therefore its not truth truth is truth it can’t change some truth is right but most are opinion

well i want to tell you my name then why did i make this user name, i should’ve just put my name as my user name if i want you to know

Your perspective of truth doesn’t change what truth is. If I say the sky is orange, even though it’s blue, that doesn’t change it to orange. You are trying to change fact with your opinion - doesn’t work that way.

You make a good point about your name.

well read the previous note when bob is robbed, that proves that when a new evidence comes along you have to change the truth and therefore truth is always changing. but some truth is right

“Truths emerge from facts, but they dip forward into facts again and add to them; which facts again create or reveal new truth (the word is indifferent) and so on indefinitely. The ‘facts’ themselves meanwhile are not true. They simply are. Truth is the function of the beliefs that start and terminate among them.”
-William James

exactly

But some truths still don’t change. Like that the sky is blue. No matter how many times you say it’s orange, it’s still blue.

I think we’re all proving each other correct, only from different points of view.

exactly, and what lamp said earlier about you is right is just from a different view, you could never judge yourself because that’s what other people is for

Fred was never the thief, so that was never truth, we just didn’t know. Just because we don’t know doesn’t make it truth.

But nobody but yourself knows you as well as you do.

but think about it what the scientist, historian,and books is the truth, until a new evidence comes along and proves it otherwise. It was the truth but then the truth changes

Things can be proven. You can prove the sky is blue, all you have to do is view it in this case.

when you’re acting stupid you don’t always know, but other people can tell. Not all people in the world like you, but you think you’re nice

It was never truth, we just didn’t know. Don’t make me say it again, I’ve already told you.

but at night is black, therefore the truth can be many things not only one truth, many truth.

Who said I thought I was nice? I never said I didn’t have my flaws. You shouldn’t assume things that you don’t know.

but it was the truth don’t you belive what the historian is saying right now, but later there might be a new evidence and then the truth change

So night sky is black, and day sky is blue. Same deal - different case.

i know you never said you were nice, it was an example

you never specify you told me that SKY is blue.

The sky is too broad of a topic. Either way, the same logic applied, my point is the same.

well truth is changing, right now new historical evidence are uncovered and somewhere out there a truth will be changed

This Thomas! not chris not ne body else. and don’t forget the sky at sunset and sunrise that is not blue or black…that’s all i got to add

OK. OMG. What don’t you get that just because we thought something was truth, even thought it wasn’t, it doesn’t make it truth?!?!?!

then tell me if its no truth what is it?

thomas you are right

The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.
– Niels Bohr

thank you

who is truth_faith? its really starting to bug me that you know who these ppl are and we don’t know who you are!

well i guess this discussion is over, maybe ill talk to you again david or chris or thomas

maybe you ‘ll find out maybe you won’t

you bet

well whoever you are “unknown one”…i will find out who you are……

you will?
well the truth is always changing

haha nice……

Do i know you personally?

hello

who are you truth_faith?

We don’t know whether something is true or not (excepting we’ve seen it ourselves), so we can’t decide. The truth never changes, the only thing that changes is what we consider truth, and just because we consider something truth, that does not make it truth. Unfortunately for Truth_Faith here, he/she/it has yet to grasp that truth does not change, just because there may be more than one truth, it still will not change. And because Truth_Faith still won’t understand after this explanation, I will state it again: Truth doesn’t change, it’s just what we consider truth that changes, and just because we consider something true, that does not make it true. I have a lot better ways to spend my time than conversing and learning nothing, so this will be my last entry. I’m ashamed of myself for how much time I’ve wasted on this today.

All great truths begin as blasphemies.

George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)
Irish playwright.

Annajanska

Errors, like Straws, upon the surface flow;
He who would search for Pearls must dive below.

John Dryden (1631 - 1700)
English poet, playwright, and literary critic.

“All for Love”

I wish you would read a little poetry sometimes. Your ignorance cramps my conversation.

Anthony Hope (1863 - 1933)
British novelist and playwright.

The Dolly Dialogues

Ignorance is not innocence[ but [sin.

Robert Browning (1812 - 1889)
British poet.

Aristophanes’ Apology, “The Inn Album”

That’s all.

david, use common sense what you think is right, right now you think is the truth. But maybe next year someone else will find something that will change that truth. Then that means that it was the truth and then it changes.

truth is living and therefore changing

I decided to come back for your sake truth_faith.

The truth doesn’t change. In your example, the new evidence would prove that we “considered” truth was incorrect. Just because we “consider” something truth, that does not make it truth. Example:

We used to consider our solar system geocentric. New evidence then proved that it is was in fact photocentric. So we had “considered” our solar system as geocentric, but that was not the truth. It was photocentric.

The truth never changed there. It had always been photocentric. What changed was what we considered truth, geocentric to photocentric.

Truth does not live, it is abstract. It’s nonmaterial, and therefore nonliving.

Well that example proves your point, so I’d be wanting that if I were you, but I’m not you so anyway…

We can try to comprehend the truth, but just because we aren’t successful in doing so doesn’t mean that we aren’t trying. I mean, for example (sorry, I know you hate examples, but it’s an easy way to prove points) is what we